Is Rick Santorum a supporter of limited government?

Santorum is right.  A completely “libertarian” society has never survived.  There is a difference between liberty as expressed in our law and license.  We recognize that the law protects all of us from our baser instincts. Extreme progressive believe that humanity is perfectable (in this life).  Conservatives and our law recognize that humanity is and will always be, flawed.

Well Ain’t THat Peachy…  Does that mean that the only person we can vote for is Romney?  What the heck. 
Gingrich loves the biggest Progressive of them all (The Racist Hoodrow Wilson) And does not like Gun ownership.
Bachmann is out, 
Perry gave Texans a virtual mandatory vaccine.
Paul believes that Iran would never hurt us (again). 
Santorum apparently believes that Big Govt is necessary (Never mind that we were fine for the first 100 years)  Also does not like Guns.
Hutsman Gives me the creaps… Sorry John, its the way it is, something bugs me.
Romney has Romeny Care, not to mention you talk to people in his state and no he did not raise taxes, but he sure put fees on everything, like having a fee on a fee to register a car, or something along those lines.. 

I am not sure about anyone else, but this whole thing is crap… We should vote for a takeover of the House and Senate in Republicans, and then keep Obama, that way NOTHING gets done.  It honestly sounds like it might work.

Santorum is not big government. Don’t believe everything you read. Look at his record http://www.redstate.com/wosg/2012/01/06/rick-santorum-yes-he-is-a-true-conservative/

“Santorum is right.  A completely “libertarian” society has never
survived.  There is a difference between liberty as expressed in our law
and license.”

Where there is liberty there will be license. 

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. – Thomas Jefferson

So you don’t want liberty because some people will misuse it – all that means is that you don’t want liberty.  The Democrats fear economic liberty and the Republicans fear personal liberty. So which party is for liberty lovers?

Interesting article, for a change. First time Bitely has scratched the surface of actual thought, and, predictably, we can see him struggling. Sure, Santorum is not a limited government guy. He wants to make it illegal to use birth control, plus all the stuff Bitely says. I wouldn’t be surprised if he would like to make it illegal to be homosexual, to have inter-racial marriage, etc. He’s for more intrusion into our lives. He just said that. Now, I think if one were to argue that you can identify “right wing” ideas by whether they are basically mean spirited, or think life should be like living according to your maiden aunt’s strictures, Santorum would win hands down, here as a conservative right winger. And, of course, he does score big with the evangelicals and “conservatives” where that is the touchstone – how bigoted you can be, how unsympathetic, how uncharitable. You know, everything that Christ argued for – compassion, “judge not,” “turn the other cheek,” get the money out of the church,  etc. All that Christian charity stuff is seen as “liberal,” “soft,” and “fuzzy minded” by the “new conservatives.” They would’ve run Christ out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered; for them, the more Christian you are the more likely it is you’ll be a fat cat with several vacation homes.. And so would Santorum. And of course, this is why Ron Paul gives the Republicans fits, too. He’s really into leaving people alone, for the most part, and most Republicans and conservative right wingers freak out at that. They’re fine with it when it means no environmental regulations. They’re not fine with it when it means no drug laws, and/or marry whom you love. As I said, you can see Bitely struggling. I think he’s enraptured by the idea that we ought to be mean spirited; he has to say Santorum’s more for limited government than Obama (which is actually not true) and that he “may not” be a libertarian and his ideas “might spell trouble,” and that we hope he’s learned this if he’s elected. Why not just come out and say this guy ought to give us all the creeps and dismiss him? Why all the hemming and hawing? 

Jefferson and Madison constructed our Constitution to create a society that would be considered libertarian by today’s standards.  Along the way and numerous violations of the Constitution later, it grew to the behemoth that we have today.   Has a libertarian society never survived because those in power continuously expand that power because they think they are more enlightened than their constituents or because people actually needed that expansion of government?  Even if you say sometimes we needed the expansion of government, I would hope that as a conservative, you would agree that the balance is skewed far towards the former.  It’s unreasonable to argue that we are discussing anarcho-capitalism vs. bigger government for the 2012 Presidential election.  We are actually arguing for smaller government vs. bigger government.  There is a huge difference in what an anarcho-capitalist libertarian would do in starting a country out vs. what Congress will permit a President to do now, even if we elected a pure anarcho-capitalist instead of Ron Paul.  Even though I would personally prefer it if things were taken much further, the most influential power that Paul will have in office is having the option to veto.  Unlike Obama, who was able to get Obamacare pushed through using majorities in the House and Senate, even if Paul has Republican majorities in both House and Senate, the big government types in the GOP will still represent a large enough faction to block much of what Paul would like to accomplish.  Let me add as well, since it’s equally unreasonable to say that Paul, who strictly adheres to the Constitution, wouldn’t do his duty and swiftly execute a war, should Congress vote to declare war at some point during his Presidency.  If you recall, it was Paul standing up as one of the only voices against Obama’s intervention in Libya that occurred without Congressional approval.Thus, a vote for Paul is only a vote for smaller government and the chance to limit further encroachment on our lives in the next 4 years.  It is not a vote for a full dismantling of the government, as much as going most of the way down that path would be significantly better for us from an economic and civil liberties standpoint in my opinion.  On the other hand, a vote for Santorum, Romney, Gingrich, Perry or Obama is a vote for bigger government.  Please choose carefully.

Keep your beliefs out of our lives Jwatersphd.

I am tired of bigots like you forcing your beliefs on the rest of us.

When you start calling the people who invented human rights bigots, and other names, I think it is safe to observe your beliefs are amongst those of the most disgusting kind we have had to flush down the toilet.

Thanks for the reminder that racists do post on conservative sites unfortunately.

Ahh, so you favor the regulation-free sale of poison.

Got it.

90-100 years ago, we had little in the way of government, and this country prospered.  And, today, it is bought and sold politicians that have put us where we are, in bankruptcy.  I am glad that I saw the words, right out of Santorum’s mouth, that tells us all, that he is not the solution.  Romney is not the solution, as he increased the debt in Massachusetts by 30% in his 4 year tenure.  He is no business man.  Then there is Newt, who created the Contract with America, and he all but disappeared.  I have seen too many videos of this guy, in his own words, says he will take care of himself first.  The only one that is consistent has been Ron Paul. 

Drug prohibition

Margie,

Good for you. Big Brother is Watching and he approves your message. Liberty is a very bad idea especially since Big Brother cares so much about you. You don’t need Liberty. You need Big Brother.

So if I ask you to leave me alone I’m forcing my beliefs on you? I get that a LOT from “conservatives” who are actually just as statist as the liberals. Just about different things.

“There out to be a law” – the rallying cry of statists everywhere.